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20-07-2023, 10:11 AM
#11821
Originally Posted by Clints
After all that has happened over the last 6 years I cannot believe that the polls are still this close.
12% of those surveyed for their voting preferences chose NOT to participate.
Then, there's the 3% margin of error.
Labour insider tells me that Labour is panicking at how they are losing votes to the National Party, the Maori Party and the Greens.
Roll on October 2023!
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20-07-2023, 10:19 AM
#11822
Originally Posted by Clints
After all that has happened over the last 6 years I cannot believe that the polls are still this close.
People don't like losing public holidays and $50k from raising the retirement age.
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20-07-2023, 10:33 AM
#11823
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
People don't like losing public holidays and $50k from raising the retirement age.
So additional to the rusted-on Labourites who were always going to ignore 6 years of non-delivery, a bunch of purely selfish swing voters will vote Labour as well.
Got it.
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20-07-2023, 10:37 AM
#11824
Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers
So additional to the rusted-on Labourites who were always going to ignore 6 years of non-delivery, a bunch of purely selfish swing voters will vote Labour as well.
Got it.
To trade it in for a party of chronic non-delivery?
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20-07-2023, 10:41 AM
#11825
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
To trade it in for a party of chronic non-delivery?
Steady on, you didn’t judge the “Let’s do this!” mob before they started their latest turn at bat.
“Let’s do ‘this’!”
“Do what?”
“Waste billions and deliver absolutely nothing!”
“Yeah, let’s do that!”
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20-07-2023, 11:01 AM
#11826
Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers
So additional to the rusted-on Labourites who were always going to ignore 6 years of non-delivery, a bunch of purely selfish swing voters will vote Labour as well.
Got it.
Labour has lost approx 40% of its support from election day 2020. People tend to forget Ardern/Labour was toast prior Covid. They were set to be a one term government. Ardern used Covid to rule by a mix of carrot and stick with a healthy dose of division.
She and Robertson showered our money around like confetti while
-imposing draconian human rights abuses on the population,
-established a "pulpit of truth", the government as the one source of truth,
- bribed news media to the tune of 105 million in an election year
-created an underclass of NZ citizens for the sin of maintaining bodily autonomy by rejecting a "vaccine" that didn't do what was promised.
Ardern then went on to establish the "Misinformation Project" (essentially a Ministry of Propaganda), run by Kate Hannah, a woman who descibes herself as a feminist Marxist who engages emotionally with her work.
And who was there right alongside Robertson and Ardern through all that? A fellow called Chris Hipkins.
As if all that isn't enough to be shod, it's now also clear that a vote for Labour is a vote for the Greens and Maori parties.
They are unelectable. And they deserve it. That's also the only reason Hipkins is safe until the election. No one will want that hospital pass.
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20-07-2023, 11:02 AM
#11827
Originally Posted by jonu
Labour has lost approx 40% of its support from election day 2020. People tend to forget Ardern/Labour was toast prior Covid. They were set to be a one term government. Ardern used Covid to rule by a mix of carrot and stick with a healthy dose of division.
Simon bridges used to get 45% (average, some polls were higher).
Until recently it was the same for the NACT coalition. It's not enough to govern unless they do another shady deal with the maori party, despite promising not to.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 20-07-2023 at 11:16 AM.
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20-07-2023, 11:09 AM
#11828
Originally Posted by jonu
Labour has lost approx 40% of its support from election day 2020. People tend to forget Ardern/Labour was toast prior Covid. They were set to be a one term government. Ardern used Covid to rule by a mix of carrot and stick with a healthy dose of division.
She and Robertson showered our money around like confetti while
-imposing draconian human rights abuses on the population,
-established a "pulpit of truth", the government as the one source of truth,
- bribed news media to the tune of 105 million in an election year
-created an underclass of NZ citizens for the sin of maintaining bodily autonomy by rejecting a "vaccine" that didn't do what was promised.
Ardern then went on to establish the "Misinformation Project" (essentially a Ministry of Propaganda), run by Kate Hannah, a woman who descibes herself as a feminist Marxist who engages emotionally with her work.
And who was there right alongside Robertson and Ardern through all that? A fellow called Chris Hipkins.
As if all that isn't enough to be shod, it's now also clear that a vote for Labour is a vote for the Greens and Maori parties.
They are unelectable. And they deserve it. That's also the only reason Hipkins is safe until the election. No one will want that hospital pass.
Dopey asset-owning ‘swing’ voters vote Labour / Chipkins at this election at their peril. Note he doesn’t say that a wealth tax / CGT won’t be clapped on in the next term under LABGREETEPATI, just that these taxes won’t be clapped on ‘under a government he leads’.
Meanwhile the ideologue Robbo says the taxes aren’t right to be clapped on ‘under the current economic conditions’.
So if Chipkins stands aside or is rolled, expect these taxes to be imposed shortly thereafter.
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20-07-2023, 11:10 AM
#11829
Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers
So if Chipkins stands aside or is rolled, expect these taxes to be imposed shortly thereafter.
Well, that make it a stronger promise than the GST debacle.
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20-07-2023, 11:13 AM
#11830
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
Well, that make it a stronger promise than the GST debacle.
I’ll see your purported ‘debacle’ and raise you KiwiBuild.
100,000 affordable homes in 10 years, remember?
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