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09-10-2018, 10:03 AM
#11001
Originally Posted by bull....
Kinda sums up the situation perfectly, a picture speaks a thousand words.
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09-10-2018, 10:34 AM
#11002
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my view... CEO actions don't look great, but the market's reaction indicated that the market was ready for a fall. If there had been plenty of fresh buyers, they would have bought. But I suspect all the passive funds were in, all the trend-followers were in, all the quick-buck punters were in or gone.. Personally, I've had a terrible time with ATM this year, but i don't blame the market for that. I'm surprised at the way the share price keeps coming off, but that's telling us something. Buying in the low $10 area should make sense, but there's a horrible chart pattern that says it $10.00 goes then it's $7.50 next stop..
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09-10-2018, 10:47 AM
#11003
Originally Posted by gbogo
my view... CEO actions don't look great, but the market's reaction indicated that the market was ready for a fall. If there had been plenty of fresh buyers, they would have bought. But I suspect all the passive funds were in, all the trend-followers were in, all the quick-buck punters were in or gone.. Personally, I've had a terrible time with ATM this year, but i don't blame the market for that. I'm surprised at the way the share price keeps coming off, but that's telling us something. Buying in the low $10 area should make sense, but there's a horrible chart pattern that says it $10.00 goes then it's $7.50 next stop..
$7.50 would mean there's something seriously wrong with the fundamentals and basically no growth going forward which seems highly unlikely.
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09-10-2018, 10:57 AM
#11004
$7.5 would equate to a trailing p/e of around 25, still implying very high growth is priced in.
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09-10-2018, 11:01 AM
#11005
Talking it down won't do it any good either.
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09-10-2018, 11:06 AM
#11006
well nobody seems to want to sell this am.Just 18k shares sold price $10.60 with the next seller at $10.80.Can't be waiting on aussie again!!
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09-10-2018, 12:17 PM
#11007
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Originally Posted by couta1
$7.50 would mean there's something seriously wrong with the fundamentals and basically no growth going forward which seems highly unlikely.
agreed, it does seem unlikely. however, I try to go through what-if scenarios and try to figure out what their impact might be.. eg what if US markets took a big fall (like they can do in October..) and spooked markets here? what if some more bad news came out of China re: daigou? what if ATM exited an index for next re-balance and some of the passives had to reverse and sell..?
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09-10-2018, 12:23 PM
#11008
Originally Posted by gbogo
agreed, it does seem unlikely. however, I try to go through what-if scenarios and try to figure out what their impact might be.. eg what if US markets took a big fall (like they can do in October..) and spooked markets here? what if some more bad news came out of China re: daigou? what if ATM exited an index for next re-balance and some of the passives had to reverse and sell..?
Yes I agree re all those scenarios and that's why I put in a former post that only those holding under $7 have any real safety net.
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09-10-2018, 12:34 PM
#11009
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never had any good thing after joining index, we see what happens when ATM exits the index.
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09-10-2018, 01:03 PM
#11010
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That $9.50 gap is not too far away.
Fundamentals .... yeah right.
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