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27-04-2020, 08:51 PM
#3281
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Cadalac123
Why is there a "best pain relief" section .. lol can't take anything on that page seriously after seeing that.
Dettol was most trusted at something
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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27-04-2020, 10:23 PM
#3282
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Cadalac123
Why is there a "best pain relief" section .. lol can't take anything on that page seriously after seeing that.
I'm surprised Liqourland didn't win that one hands down.
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28-04-2020, 06:10 PM
#3283
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Arthur
Perhaps you could enlighten us in the perfect package you would have come up with in a week, or share five countries that have done it better.
I can tell you that the ideal perfect package would have cost a small fraction of what Labour have blown, been more effective, resulted in minimal wholesale disruption and carnage compared with what Labour's Beehive Idiot huddle have orchestrated..
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28-04-2020, 08:00 PM
#3284
You have the benefit of hindsight, yet have not named anything or anywhere.....there is no doubt the package was imperfect. It did do what it was designed to do and get money out quickly an give breathing space to most businesses and employees. Six weeks later in the USA they are still pissing around with many businesses and many of the 20 million newly unemployed still getting no survival money. Sweden's much vaunted half pregnant approach will still result in over 10% unemployment, thousands dead and an economy that is likely to be less free than ours will be in a month. In the meantime if you have any real constructive ideas (instead of petty sniping) send them to Paul Goldsmith any other member of the Epidemic Response Committee who have been helping "make the boat go faster" There is plenty of time to electioneer when the boat is bailed and the holes are mostly plugged.
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28-04-2020, 08:54 PM
#3285
Sweden normally have an unemployment rate of around 7 or 8 percent anyway, so headline scaremongering of 10% unemployment is a bit ridiculous, as it only a few percent above normal anyway.
when I left school in Cornwall, the town I was in had well over 20% unemployment, it will be a new experience for many, but there has to come a time when it has to be accepted, cannot keep giving away endless money to try and stave off the inevitable.
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28-04-2020, 09:28 PM
#3286
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by nztx
I can tell you that the ideal perfect package would have cost a small fraction of what Labour have blown, been more effective, resulted in minimal wholesale disruption and carnage compared with what Labour's Beehive Idiot huddle have orchestrated.. ![Wink](images/smilies/wink2.gif)
had cross-party support - so maybe blame parliament rather than the government if you don't like it. unless you're wearing blinkers.
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28-04-2020, 10:07 PM
#3287
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Arthur
You have the benefit of hindsight, yet have not named anything or anywhere.....there is no doubt the package was imperfect. It did do what it was designed to do and get money out quickly an give breathing space to most businesses and employees. Six weeks later in the USA they are still pissing around with many businesses and many of the 20 million newly unemployed still getting no survival money. Sweden's much vaunted half pregnant approach will still result in over 10% unemployment, thousands dead and an economy that is likely to be less free than ours will be in a month. In the meantime if you have any real constructive ideas (instead of petty sniping) send them to Paul Goldsmith any other member of the Epidemic Response Committee who have been helping "make the boat go faster" There is plenty of time to electioneer when the boat is bailed and the holes are mostly plugged.
Taiwan - Virus cases = 420 cases - less than 12 deaths (On what Population again ???)
Experienced in dealing with Pandemics from previous ones - this is the country we should have been following
When did they start turning around cruise ships & getting things in place to produce this ? - back in January 2020
Not very far away from the Cruise Ship where NZ Govt was spinning on about rescuing the first Cruise Ship passengers from either - for those who remember that very first Govt organised Urgent Air evacuation of NZ Citizens ...
Our Govt & Health Authorities have been caught out asleep at the wheel, failing to act at the pertinent time when they should have .. No Shut Down was at all necessary, No Wages or any Subsidy needed but for a couple of sectors or so only , No Large Scale Business Carnage, No large Scale Unemployment, No Large Scale Impact on the Economy -- none of these were necessary - if Govt & Health Authorities had been alert, exercised a little bit of Common sense & used the things perched on their shoulders applying a little bit of Logic..
They need only have looked at - what do we not want to close down completely & Least possible damage / cost / infection all round , then look at those countries closest to China for the ones with least Infection & Deaths and see how those countries achieved it..
All quite simple & Common sense really - a very far distance from the track that our own blind spinning Incompetent Beehive Muppets presided over by 'Whip-up-a-Crisis Cindy' have followed ![Wink](images/smilies/wink2.gif)
Is it too much to be expected that those in Ministry of Health & Govt look at a the frequent charts of Countries with Infection & Death Reports & look for other countries that probably should be represented but are NOT - questioning why they don't star or are not following the general trend ?
Last edited by nztx; 28-04-2020 at 10:44 PM.
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29-04-2020, 11:18 AM
#3288
Meanwhile, back at The Warehouse...…………..
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29-04-2020, 01:31 PM
#3289
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by nztx
All quite simple & Common sense really - a very far distance from the track that our own blind spinning Incompetent Beehive Muppets presided over by 'Whip-up-a-Crisis Cindy' have followed ![Wink](images/smilies/wink2.gif)
All this magical "Captain Hindsight" analysis is why I don't read any of the covid threads on here.
I've just been out and got a coffee from around the corner and there is definitely some commerce going on.
Maybe WHS will be open in a handful of weeks and we can get back to normal. Will be interesting to hear how their retail is surviving with online and "contactless" only. I'm a little surprised that the WHS SP hasn't come back a little more in recent weeks.
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29-04-2020, 01:57 PM
#3290
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Arthur
You have the benefit of hindsight, yet have not named anything or anywhere.....there is no doubt the package was imperfect. It did do what it was designed to do and get money out quickly an give breathing space to most businesses and employees. Six weeks later in the USA they are still pissing around with many businesses and many of the 20 million newly unemployed still getting no survival money. Sweden's much vaunted half pregnant approach will still result in over 10% unemployment, thousands dead and an economy that is likely to be less free than ours will be in a month. In the meantime if you have any real constructive ideas (instead of petty sniping) send them to Paul Goldsmith any other member of the Epidemic Response Committee who have been helping "make the boat go faster" There is plenty of time to electioneer when the boat is bailed and the holes are mostly plugged.
You really should consider being our leader, your knowledge of woudda shoudda coudda is clearly evident.
Taiwan, as you point out, was better prepared as they suffered badly and learnt from SARS - kudos to them.
Anyway, the country is better for your name calling and sniping.
I think it's clear this government was never going to satisfy you.
Last edited by Chinesekiwi; 29-04-2020 at 03:57 PM.
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