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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaa View Post
    Thanks for sharing.

    Lots of red flags in there:

    - China moving towards increased domestic food supply
    - Government financial support for China's Kiwifruit industry
    - Chinese companies developing their own varieties and IP

    What's the bet NZ trained some of their scientists in our education facilities?
    Red flags?

    - China moving towards increased domestic food supply

    This is a good thing, and should be fully supported by a anti globalist and populist like you. But apart from that, its good as well from an ecological and food security related perspective - less transport emissions and more diversity.

    - Government financial support for China's Kiwifruit industry

    Well, yes - most governments think it prudent to support their agriculture in one way or another. Just look at Europe or the States. How do you see our governments support for agricultural research?

    - Chinese companies developing their own varieties and IP

    Good on them. Competition is great, will increase diversity and competition and improve life for the consumer.

    - What's the bet NZ trained some of their scientists in our education facilities?

    So what? This is the way humanity is moving forward. Europeans learned from Chinese and Arabs most of their early medical knowledge. Most of our food staples come from the Americas ... populated at that time by people coming from Asia.

    Isn't it great if we give some of that knowledge back ... and even to get them to pay for their education here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Red flags?

    - China moving towards increased domestic food supply

    This is a good thing, and should be fully supported by a anti globalist and populist like you. But apart from that, its good as well from an ecological and food security related perspective - less transport emissions and more diversity.

    - Government financial support for China's Kiwifruit industry

    Well, yes - most governments think it prudent to support their agriculture in one way or another. Just look at Europe or the States. How do you see our governments support for agricultural research?

    - Chinese companies developing their own varieties and IP

    Good on them. Competition is great, will increase diversity and competition and improve life for the consumer.

    - What's the bet NZ trained some of their scientists in our education facilities?

    So what? This is the way humanity is moving forward. Europeans learned from Chinese and Arabs most of their early medical knowledge. Most of our food staples come from the Americas ... populated at that time by people coming from Asia.

    Isn't it great if we give some of that knowledge back ... and even to get them to pay for their education here?
    Red flags for Seeka and the NZ kiwifruit industry.

    Anti-globalist? haha I am very pro free trade and the free movement of people and information.

    The problem is China does not practice any of that and prefers to cheat, steal and lie. As soon as their kiwifruit industry is up to volume watch them pull more nonsense health scares on NZ kiwifruit to shift demand to local fruit like they did with the far superior Taiwanese pineapples.

    China has already been caught stealing and growing NZ sungold kiwifruit and since there is no rule of law told NZ to stick it despite our free trade agreement.

    From the original article looks like the NZ industry might be saved a bit by climate change. One can hope that burning all that coal even at the expense of idling green alternatives, deforesting the world and concreting everywhere to the point you can't see across the road due to the pollution backfires on the CCP.
    Last edited by Jaa; 16-03-2023 at 05:33 PM.

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