National - FFS!

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Here's one of the times on record Chris Bishop as National party spokesperson on Covid spoke supporting vaccine mandates & National's own record flip flopped several times on this issue .
And though I can't provide a link for this, this morning on ZB on Keri Woodhams show, Luxon said he would get rid of vaccination mandates for health workers & the govt should apologise for getting vaccine mandates wrong.

We're now in the middle of a surging 2nd wave & Covid is rapidly spreading again. Over 10,000 cases a day multiplied over a week means a heck of a lot of pretty sick people not working or sick but working from home & 700 cases in hospital with numbers rising.
I can't think of a single immunocompromised chemo patient or anyone recovering from major surgery or in ICU from a car accident or major injury wanting an unvaccinated nurse near them in this latest surging Covid wave.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...hcare-workers/

Times change and strategies change - that’s just how things are!

You are referring to Chris Bishop from months and months ago!!!!!! From last year in fact!!!!!

Try harder. You are sounding desperate.

[Blue Skies]

Times change and strategies change - that’s just how things are!

You are referring to Chris Bishop from months and months ago!!!!!! From last year in fact!!!!!

Try harder. You are sounding desperate.

National's Chris Bishop was right when he said it then and its still just as right now, "it would be nuts to have an unvaccinated nurse looking after someone in ICU" .

There has been an immediate & strong push back from patients & doctors to Luxon's statement he would get rid of vaccine mandates for health workers & the govt should apologise for getting vaccine mandates wrong.

You have to remember out of something like over 30,000 nurses, there was only a few hundred who were anti vax & some of those anti vaccine nurses were completely balmy.
Remember the nurse who said her sister who had been vaccinated touched her pet lamb & the lamb's blood immediately turned black & the lamb died.
Luxon may thinks it's fine to politicise this or more probably once again winging it without thinking it through, but most people don't want nurses who don't believe in modern evidence based medicine near patients.

[dobby41]

Links and references to your claim.

I cannot find any contradictions as you posted anywhere.

Times change and strategies change - that’s just how things are!

You are referring to Chris Bishop from months and months ago!!!!!! From last year in fact!!!!!

Try harder. You are sounding desperate.

When shown the contradiction you change tack - a lot like National.
Luxon swings all over the place.
What's with running down the country while overseas - talk about stab us in the back (he then tries to walk back some of what he said).

[Balance]

National's Chris Bishop was right when he said it then and its still just as right now, "it would be nuts to have an unvaccinated nurse looking after someone in ICU" .

There has been an immediate & strong push back from patients & doctors to Luxon's statement he would get rid of vaccine mandates for health workers & the govt should apologise for getting vaccine mandates wrong.

You have to remember out of something like over 30,000 nurses, there was only a few hundred who were anti vax & some of those anti vaccine nurses were completely balmy.
Remember the nurse who said her sister who had been vaccinated touched her pet lamb & the lamb's blood immediately turned black & the lamb died.
Luxon may thinks it's fine to politicise this or more probably once again winging it without thinking it through, but most people don't want nurses who don't believe in modern evidence based medicine near patients.

Plenty of people who are sick would prefer to have a nurse or doctor to treat them, vaccinated or otherwise, than not. The RATs are there to ensure they are COVID free before they go to work. This is what Australia is doing except for elderly care workers.

Tell the thousands of cancer sufferers that they have a choice whether to have their surgeries & procedures postponed due to staff shortages or do they prefer to have unvaccinated staff who have negative RATs attend to them. What do you think this grandmother would choose if given the choice of vaccinated or unvaccinated staff as to whether she could have her surgery on time to save her eye?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dai...ays-in-surgery

But you are deflecting (as usual) from your attempt at misinformation - spreading lies that Luxon has a different opinion from Bishop when they don't. Time marches on, risk settings change and a progressive strategic approach changes accordingly.

Unlike Ardern & Little - still refusing to acknowledge that there is a health crisis when the majority of frontline staff say so :

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...ety-risks.html

Excerpt : "Health Minister on Tuesday refused to use the 'c-word', even though leading GPs, surgeons, nurses, aged care workers and midwives all say the system is in crisis and that Andrew Little should admit it."

Meanwhile,

[Blue Skies]

Wow, just listened to Susie Fergusson on RNZ Morning Report holding Luxon to account over several comments he's made recently while Luxon tries to waffle & babble his way out of it, but Susie having none of it!

Luxon once again explaining & explaining what he said wasn't what he meant over comments NZ businesses are getting too soft.

Trying to waffle his way out of his comments the govt is making it too hard to do business but just babbles when Susie reminds him the World Bank Index rates NZ number one in the world for ease of doing business.

And fumbles when asked what other medically informed Public health measures he thinks we should ignore when questioned on his stance on allowing anti-vax nurses to work back in hospitals etc.

This is not what we need in a PM esp at a time when we are facing such massive global problems.


https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/progr...ses-being-soft

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This is not what we need in a PM esp at a time when we are facing such massive global problems.

In a time of crisis his first priority would be "business".

Australia has just passed a law which bans MPs from owning shares or interests in a trust.. should do the same here.

[Balance]

When shown the contradiction you change tack - a lot like National.
Luxon swings all over the place.
What's with running down the country while overseas - talk about stab us in the back (he then tries to walk back some of what he said).

How pathetic for you to come out to try & defend BS’s attempt at misinformation and then, deflection. Sad!

Try harder as the majority of NZers simply have had enough of the deflections and misinformation coming out of Ardern’s camp.

Remember Hipkins’ episode with Charlotte Bellis? That’s how low you lot are stopping down to in desperation as the Ardern star implodes into the dust cloud of spin, bull and non delivery for which her government is now synonymous with.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/po...emergency-miq/

Former Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins made false statements about Charlotte Bellis despite officials discussing the correct information prior, before taking nearly six months to correct the public record.

[Blue Skies]

How pathetic for you to come out to try & defend BS’s attempt at misinformation and then, deflection. Sad!

Try harder as the majority of NZers simply have had enough of the deflections and misinformation coming out of Ardern’s camp.

Remember Hipkins’ episode with Charlotte Bellis? That’s how low you lot are stopping down to in desperation as the Ardern star implodes into the dust cloud of spin, bull and non delivery for which her government is now synonymous with.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/po...emergency-miq/

Former Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins made false statements about Charlotte Bellis despite officials discussing the correct information prior, before taking nearly six months to correct the public record.

The personal information Hipkins shared & made a mistake with was mixing up the dates when she was in which country, UK or Belgium & Afghanistan.
He had rather a lot on his plate at the time dealing with some major portfolios.
Secondly, he couldn't apologise publicly any earlier because he was respecting Charlotte Bellis insisting she would determine the date he could make a public statement & apologise.
Why are you still getting so incensed & inflamed about it?
The matter was all sorted, Charlotte Bellis is fine.

[dobby41]

How pathetic for you to come out to try & defend BS’s attempt at misinformation and then, deflection. Sad!

Try harder as the majority of NZers simply have had enough of the deflections and misinformation coming out of Ardern’s camp.

The irony - I write about Luxon and you suggest that I'm deflecting while you try to deflect to Hipkins.

What a joke - always unable to stick to a subject if you don't like it and deflect.

[Balance]

The personal information Hipkins shared & made a mistake with was mixing up the dates when she was in which country, UK or Belgium & Afghanistan.
He had rather a lot on his plate at the time dealing with some major portfolios.
Secondly, he couldn't apologise publicly any earlier because he was respecting Charlotte Bellis insisting she would determine the date he could make a public statement & apologise.
Why are you still getting so incensed & inflamed about it?
The matter was all sorted, Charlotte Bellis is fine.

Not true and you are still trying to spread further misinformation and deflect from Hipkins’ dastardly behaviour.

He released the information to incite abuse against Bellis and her partner - no other reason.

In another country, he would have resigned or being forced to resign but this is Ardern - bereft of any competent and capable ministers in her ranks. So she has to put up with a minister who thought it was alright to incite abuse against a pregnant woman.